People Need to Shut Up About This

I was just watching Nostalgia Critic’s 11 Dumbest Lord of The Rings Moments and guess what was number one.

No, really… Guess.

Have you guessed it?

I’m too unwell to go into the fact that this is not a movie moment, unlike the rest. There is no moment in the movie where Gandalf goes “Hm, should I use those giant eagle things maybe?” and then decides “Naaah, tiny Hobbits, it worked last time.” Regardless, people love to bitch and moan about this and the movie/book’s defenders go on and on about why that couldn’t happen. Or that maybe what Gandalf meant by “Fly, you fools.” was exactly that and the rest of the group just didn’t get it. Here’s the greatest reason why using the eagles is not a good idea…


A long while ago OM made a post on HarsH REaLiTy about how the characters would often get from one place to another without logical explanation of how they got there. Which I thought was amusing considering how damn long those books/movies are without showing the character painstakingly climbing every mountain. This is the exact opposite of the eagle thing. LoTR isn’t there to solve a problem in five minutes, it’s there to send you on a journey. Who wants to read five pages of a Hobbit getting on a eagle and flying safely to his destination? I mean, does no one else see a problem with that particular reasoning? Yes, maybe the criticism is more along the lines of ‘they should have considered it’ or ‘they should have explained why’, but then I ask you: Why? Why should Gandalf have explained his reasons? He’s a goddamn wizard, he doesn’t have to explain himself to you! >.>


Really, people, the eagle thing, let’s just drop it, mkay?



13 thoughts on “People Need to Shut Up About This

  1. While I generally agree with the idea that using the eagles (or any other “I Win” button) defeats the purpose of the exercise, at least from our perspective as readers/viewers, I think the problem arises from an internal consistency standpoint.

    We’re supposed to “live” in that world, immerse ourselves in it, treat it like it’s real. Using that logic, apply the same concept to something “realistic”: “Oh no! We have to get this secret plan to Russia to stop them from detonating a mega nuke that will end all life! We could send this stealth bomber that can get there in two hours, make the drop, problem solved. Or we could have a group of people, most of whom are known and being watched for by Putin’s agents, swim across the ocean, walk across Siberia, make a detour through France and Germany, have a well-publicized meet and greet, and then walk into Moscow. What should we do, Mr. President?”

    “Let’s do the second one.”

    “What? Why?”

    “More dramatic.”


    Personally, I don’t really care; I’m not much of a Lord of the Rings fan to start with, and ignoring the eagles and just accepting the story as is doesn’t hurt me a bit. But I can understand why it drives some people batty. XD

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    • See, but my point exactly is that the ‘let’s do this or let’s do that’ moment never happens. One could assume there is a reason why the eagles can’t or won’t do this; they’re not Gandalf’s pets after all, without going into a lengthy explanation solely for the sake of preventing any possible nitpicking.

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      • Then that leads to “the world leaders are dumb,” which is feasible… Or Tolkein botched it, which I suspect would bring down even more hate for just suggesting it. XD Either Elrond and Gandalf herp derped it, or there’s some reason obvious to everyone in world why it’s not worth discussing, that we readers should have been told. But, as I said before, I don’t tend to worry about it much. XD

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  2. Its pretty well established in the books, I believe, that the Eagles don’t want to get involved in the War of the Ring. It seems pretty logical, then, that the Eagles don’t want to be anywhere near Frodo or, for that matter, any member of the Fellowship while the Ring is still around.

    As or the movies, well, they’re already long enough. I personally don’t need an explanation as to why these birds–who are seen for less than a minute in the entire original trilogy–wont fly them to Mt. Doom.

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  3. I stand corrected. They do actually fight off the Wraiths at the very end of the Battle for Middle Earth, but you could say that at this point, the Eagles could see what was truly at stake and chose to get involved. It wouldn’t be the first time that a particular race didn’t want to get involved in human affairs, but chose to anyway (the elves).

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